Comments on: Voting for the Hall of Fame http://knuckleballsblog.com/2010/12/27/voting-for-the-hall-of-fame/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=voting-for-the-hall-of-fame "Like butterflies with hiccups" Tue, 21 May 2013 14:15:57 +0000 hourly 1 By: Jim Crikket http://knuckleballsblog.com/2010/12/27/voting-for-the-hall-of-fame/#comment-3755 Jim Crikket Mon, 03 Jan 2011 15:12:10 +0000 http://knuckleballsblog.com/?p=5063#comment-3755 Yeah, lisa… I’d say Boone’s odds of following in the footsteps of guys like Steve Carlton, Dave Winfield and Paul Molitor as Hall of Famers who (for better or worse) played for the Twins toward the end of their HoF careers are quite long… and that’s being far more generous than Boone was to the Twins during those 14 games. I suspect that the voting BBWAA members will see to it that Boone fails to get sufficient votes to stay on the ballot more than one year.

]]> By: lisatwink http://knuckleballsblog.com/2010/12/27/voting-for-the-hall-of-fame/#comment-3753 lisatwink Mon, 03 Jan 2011 03:56:13 +0000 http://knuckleballsblog.com/?p=5063#comment-3753 Bret Boone is on the ballot this year? Is that a typo? THAT Bret Boone? Is there another Bret Boone I’m unfamiliar with? I mean…huh. Bret Boone, eh?

Wow, he only played in 14 games with the Twins? It seemed worse than that.

]]> By: Jim Crikket http://knuckleballsblog.com/2010/12/27/voting-for-the-hall-of-fame/#comment-3702 Jim Crikket Thu, 30 Dec 2010 15:25:42 +0000 http://knuckleballsblog.com/?p=5063#comment-3702 Since the official HoF ballots aren’t required to be submitted until the 31st, I’m allowing myself the right to make a late change. See the UPDATE at the bottom of the post. Jeff Bagwell has to be included.

]]> By: AW http://knuckleballsblog.com/2010/12/27/voting-for-the-hall-of-fame/#comment-3681 AW Tue, 28 Dec 2010 18:29:54 +0000 http://knuckleballsblog.com/?p=5063#comment-3681 As always, I enjoyed your post. This has got to be Bert’s year.
One other quick stat on Bert: although, as you noted, he is no Nolan Ryan, he actually had a better winning percentage than Nolan Ryan, despite the fact, as you also accurately noted, that he played on a bunch of mediocre teams. I always thought that was an interesting one.
My personal feeling is that Bert won a ton of games, struck out a ton of batters, and completed more games than most other pitchers in the history of modern day baseball. Bert, with 287 wins, has got to get in before “dominant” pitchers of the 2000′s (see Curt Schilling, Mike Mussina, etc.) even get a courtesy vote from some local scribe.

]]> By: Jim Crikket http://knuckleballsblog.com/2010/12/27/voting-for-the-hall-of-fame/#comment-3673 Jim Crikket Tue, 28 Dec 2010 15:19:49 +0000 http://knuckleballsblog.com/?p=5063#comment-3673 James, you are not a “panzy”. From now on, the term to reflect a lack of fortitude shall instead be “Philadelphian”. You aren’t a panzy, you’re a Philadelphian. :)

I can understand the impulse to “wait” a while on the steroid users. But here’s my prediction… the writers will “wait” on them until the media darlings like Alex Rodriguez and Roger Clemens are eligible and then start talking about how there needs to be “amnesty” for these guys, giving them an excuse to vote in their Yankees, even if it’s too late, by then, for McGwire and others to get the votes needed for election. I just think writers (and many fans) are being very hypocritical on the subject. Given the way MLB treated the issue… not only did they NOT prohibit steroid use, they pretty much celebrated it (as did the media)… I know very well that if I had been in a position to have a MLB career by juicing, I’d have waited all of about 3 seconds before saying “yes”. And virtually everyone I know who ever played the game and had dreams of playing professionally would have done the same thing. Now, because some records were broken, we want to keep these guys out of the Hall?

And yes, that ’94 Jays team had some ballplayers. Of course the Expos had the best record in baseball at the time of the strike. Could be the strike prevented the first and only legitimate opportunity for an all-Canadian World Series!

]]> By: James http://knuckleballsblog.com/2010/12/27/voting-for-the-hall-of-fame/#comment-3667 James Tue, 28 Dec 2010 04:21:47 +0000 http://knuckleballsblog.com/?p=5063#comment-3667 I agree with your statement about ‘punishing’ playing who were good for a very long time (20+ years). If Blyleven played on teams that were not celler dwellers for 15+ of his years, he would of had 325+ wins and shoo in for the HoF. But he gets punished for playing with the 70′s Twins/Cleveland/Texas. From the articles I have read this offseason about the HoF and Bert, it seems a lot of them kind of gloss over that he has 2 World Series rings ‘We Are Family’ Pirates and the’ 87 Twins)
The dude had a TON of strikeouts (was 3rd on the K’s list when he retired) and one of the best curveballs ever…but I supposed I am biased towards Bert because of his Twins connection

anywho…my ballot would be: Bert, Alomar, Trammell, Larkin are all no-brainers…but after that things get sketchy for me with the steroids thing…I think I’ll punt McGwire/Bagwell/Palmeiro until next year. I am a panzy :p

Morris doesnt get on my ballot (an aside, how good were those Toronto teams before the 94 strike? Devon White, Rickey Henderson, Paul Molitor, Roberto Alomar, Joe Carter Jack Morris, Pat Hentgen, Dave Stewart, Duane Ward closing things out…dang!)

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