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	<title>Comments on: Enough About Target Field &#8211; Just Fix It</title>
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		<title>By: frightwig</title>
		<link>http://knuckleballsblog.com/2011/10/11/enough-about-target-field-just-fix-it/#comment-9360</link>
		<dc:creator>frightwig</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Oct 2011 20:10:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I think the division winners all playing in &quot;hitter&#039;s parks&quot; this year is just a fluke. Comerica Park atypically favored run-scoring this year mostly because it was so favorable to doubles and especially triples, for some reason, not home runs. Had the Red Sox held on, that would be another playoff team whose home park is conducive to scoring although it&#039;s tough to hit homers there. And the near-miss Braves play in a pitcher&#039;s park. 

Of course, last year&#039;s champions, the Giants, play in a very pitcher-friendly park. The Twins won their division in Target Field, as they did five other times in the past decade although the Metrodome had become a pitcher&#039;s park. The Rays won the AL East while playing in the most extreme pitcher&#039;s park in either league for the season. The Padres in their pitching haven won 90 games and missed the postseason by just a game. (The Phillies, Reds, and Braves made the postseason in parks that played neutral.)  

Looking at pennant winners in the past decade... The 2001 Diamondbacks&#039; home slightly favored hitters; Yankee Stadium heavily favored pitchers (and the Mariners won 116 games with the most pitcher-friendly park in the AL that year). The 2002 Angels and Giants both played in pitcher&#039;s parks; Angels Stadium extremely so. The 2003 Marlins and Yankees both called pitcher&#039;s parks home; Sun Life Stadium extremely so. The 2004 Red Sox played in a hitter&#039;s park, although Fenway slightly favored pitcher&#039;s on home runs, but the Cardinals played in a pitcher&#039;s park. The 2005 White Sox played in a hitter&#039;s park (but not an extreme one), while the Astros&#039; home favored pitchers. The 2006 Cardinals and Tigers both played in pitcher&#039;s parks. The 2007 Red Sox and Rockies both played in hitter&#039;s parks (although, again, it was tough to homer in Fenway). The Phillies&#039; home in 2008 slightly favored hitters (but ranked smack in the middle of MLB), while the Rays played in a pitcher&#039;s park. In 2009, the new Yankee Stadium favored pitching (although it was conducive to homers), while the Phillies&#039; home played as it did the year before. 

Looking at all that data, I&#039;d say that playing in a pitcher&#039;s park doesn&#039;t hurt a club&#039;s chances of winning big; it might even be a help. 

And looking at some Twins player stats from 2010 (I&#039;ll focus on that because the team was in relative good health), it seems that Target Field cut down on the power of Mauer and Morneau;  Mauer hit 8 HR on the road last year, but just 1 at home, while Morneau had a 14/4 split in his half-season. However, Cuddyer hit 7 HR at home, 7 on the road last year, while his slash line at home was superior; this year his split was an even 10/10, and again he had his better slash line at home.  Kubel had a 13/8 road/home HR split in 2010, but his avg/obp at home were higher than away. Same trend for Delmon Young, while he enjoyed a career year. And of course Jim Thome seemed to like the place just fine.

So, although Target Field might cut down on home runs, the good hitters on the team, when healthy, were still performing well at home that season. Even Mauer and Morneau, whose HR power seemed most affected, still posted very good slash lines at home. 

I guess it wouldn&#039;t be bad to move the plate a little, if only to improve some sightlines, but I don&#039;t think the park is really a problem. This year, the Twins just had too many players, both at the plate and on the mound, who were either hurt or just sucked eggs. My prescription: get better players! :)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the division winners all playing in &#8220;hitter&#8217;s parks&#8221; this year is just a fluke. Comerica Park atypically favored run-scoring this year mostly because it was so favorable to doubles and especially triples, for some reason, not home runs. Had the Red Sox held on, that would be another playoff team whose home park is conducive to scoring although it&#8217;s tough to hit homers there. And the near-miss Braves play in a pitcher&#8217;s park. </p>
<p>Of course, last year&#8217;s champions, the Giants, play in a very pitcher-friendly park. The Twins won their division in Target Field, as they did five other times in the past decade although the Metrodome had become a pitcher&#8217;s park. The Rays won the AL East while playing in the most extreme pitcher&#8217;s park in either league for the season. The Padres in their pitching haven won 90 games and missed the postseason by just a game. (The Phillies, Reds, and Braves made the postseason in parks that played neutral.)  </p>
<p>Looking at pennant winners in the past decade&#8230; The 2001 Diamondbacks&#8217; home slightly favored hitters; Yankee Stadium heavily favored pitchers (and the Mariners won 116 games with the most pitcher-friendly park in the AL that year). The 2002 Angels and Giants both played in pitcher&#8217;s parks; Angels Stadium extremely so. The 2003 Marlins and Yankees both called pitcher&#8217;s parks home; Sun Life Stadium extremely so. The 2004 Red Sox played in a hitter&#8217;s park, although Fenway slightly favored pitcher&#8217;s on home runs, but the Cardinals played in a pitcher&#8217;s park. The 2005 White Sox played in a hitter&#8217;s park (but not an extreme one), while the Astros&#8217; home favored pitchers. The 2006 Cardinals and Tigers both played in pitcher&#8217;s parks. The 2007 Red Sox and Rockies both played in hitter&#8217;s parks (although, again, it was tough to homer in Fenway). The Phillies&#8217; home in 2008 slightly favored hitters (but ranked smack in the middle of MLB), while the Rays played in a pitcher&#8217;s park. In 2009, the new Yankee Stadium favored pitching (although it was conducive to homers), while the Phillies&#8217; home played as it did the year before. </p>
<p>Looking at all that data, I&#8217;d say that playing in a pitcher&#8217;s park doesn&#8217;t hurt a club&#8217;s chances of winning big; it might even be a help. </p>
<p>And looking at some Twins player stats from 2010 (I&#8217;ll focus on that because the team was in relative good health), it seems that Target Field cut down on the power of Mauer and Morneau;  Mauer hit 8 HR on the road last year, but just 1 at home, while Morneau had a 14/4 split in his half-season. However, Cuddyer hit 7 HR at home, 7 on the road last year, while his slash line at home was superior; this year his split was an even 10/10, and again he had his better slash line at home.  Kubel had a 13/8 road/home HR split in 2010, but his avg/obp at home were higher than away. Same trend for Delmon Young, while he enjoyed a career year. And of course Jim Thome seemed to like the place just fine.</p>
<p>So, although Target Field might cut down on home runs, the good hitters on the team, when healthy, were still performing well at home that season. Even Mauer and Morneau, whose HR power seemed most affected, still posted very good slash lines at home. </p>
<p>I guess it wouldn&#8217;t be bad to move the plate a little, if only to improve some sightlines, but I don&#8217;t think the park is really a problem. This year, the Twins just had too many players, both at the plate and on the mound, who were either hurt or just sucked eggs. My prescription: get better players! <img src='http://knuckleballsblog.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Jim Crikket</title>
		<link>http://knuckleballsblog.com/2011/10/11/enough-about-target-field-just-fix-it/#comment-9338</link>
		<dc:creator>Jim Crikket</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Oct 2011 03:02:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Amen, JB. I&#039;d much rather we spend time talking about exciting baseball than listen to more excuses for why we DIDN&#039;T see exciting baseball.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Amen, JB. I&#8217;d much rather we spend time talking about exciting baseball than listen to more excuses for why we DIDN&#8217;T see exciting baseball.</p>
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		<title>By: JB_Iowa</title>
		<link>http://knuckleballsblog.com/2011/10/11/enough-about-target-field-just-fix-it/#comment-9333</link>
		<dc:creator>JB_Iowa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Oct 2011 01:10:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Seems like everytime I turn on a game from another stadium, I see trees.  Very hard to understand how those Minnesota spruces were so different.  It&#039;ll be interesting to see what happens to TF over the next 3-5 years.  I just hope it&#039;ll also be interesting to see what happens AT Target Field over the next few years.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Seems like everytime I turn on a game from another stadium, I see trees.  Very hard to understand how those Minnesota spruces were so different.  It&#8217;ll be interesting to see what happens to TF over the next 3-5 years.  I just hope it&#8217;ll also be interesting to see what happens AT Target Field over the next few years.</p>
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		<title>By: Jim Crikket</title>
		<link>http://knuckleballsblog.com/2011/10/11/enough-about-target-field-just-fix-it/#comment-9331</link>
		<dc:creator>Jim Crikket</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Oct 2011 23:07:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Agree with all of you. 

I&#039;d love to bring back the trees and tell the players to shut up and play ball. That batters eye they&#039;ve got in CF now is an eyesore.

Home plate is absolutely too close to the backstop, especially with the stone facing.

And, alas, yes the Twins seem determined to leave things as is.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Agree with all of you. </p>
<p>I&#8217;d love to bring back the trees and tell the players to shut up and play ball. That batters eye they&#8217;ve got in CF now is an eyesore.</p>
<p>Home plate is absolutely too close to the backstop, especially with the stone facing.</p>
<p>And, alas, yes the Twins seem determined to leave things as is.</p>
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		<title>By: mark</title>
		<link>http://knuckleballsblog.com/2011/10/11/enough-about-target-field-just-fix-it/#comment-9322</link>
		<dc:creator>mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Oct 2011 18:24:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Great idea JC.  Something tells me the Twins probably not go this route.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great idea JC.  Something tells me the Twins probably not go this route.</p>
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		<title>By: Craig H</title>
		<link>http://knuckleballsblog.com/2011/10/11/enough-about-target-field-just-fix-it/#comment-9319</link>
		<dc:creator>Craig H</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Oct 2011 17:53:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Good post.  I thought of this, too.  Besides the reasons you mention, I would also be happy seeing fewer passed balls and wild pitches bounce off the rock right back to the catcher.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good post.  I thought of this, too.  Besides the reasons you mention, I would also be happy seeing fewer passed balls and wild pitches bounce off the rock right back to the catcher.</p>
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		<title>By: AW</title>
		<link>http://knuckleballsblog.com/2011/10/11/enough-about-target-field-just-fix-it/#comment-9312</link>
		<dc:creator>AW</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Oct 2011 15:09:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The organization was so knee-jerk about the darn centerfield trees and the batter&#039;s eye; you would think they would at least take a more serious look at adjusting the dimensions.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The organization was so knee-jerk about the darn centerfield trees and the batter&#8217;s eye; you would think they would at least take a more serious look at adjusting the dimensions.</p>
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