Comments on: Revere Traded to Phillies!

By: Jim Crikket

Jim Crikket — Fri, 07 Dec 2012 00:13:56 +0000

I admit that I’m left wishing we could just fast-forward through 2013 and get ready for 2014.

I guess, if nothing else, it could make for a fun season for those of us who enjoy following the Twins minor league teams.

By: frightwig

frightwig — Thu, 06 Dec 2012 23:42:01 +0000

“Hindsight is 20-20 and had they known just how hot the market would be in Nashville for CFs, I suspect they would have waited a week to deal Span.”

I’m not sure this trade is really better than the Span deal, though. I think it goes to show that Ryan might have received two pitchers, instead of one, if he had been willing to take two guys with less upside and/or more risk attached than the kid he got from the Nats. But Ryan must have realized that even last week. Like you say, he probably just really liked Alex Meyer (who looks like a better prospect than May, and has the potential to be better than Worley), and took the opportunity to grab the best prospect he could get in return for Span.

By: frightwig

frightwig — Thu, 06 Dec 2012 22:18:38 +0000

I like the deal, but mostly because I’ve never been all that high on Ben Revere’s potential. Looks like the Twins are getting a pretty good prospect (high K/9 rates), who has had significant control issues and didn’t exactly dominate AA last season, plus a fine young pitcher who will be under club control for at least 4 years but is returning from elbow surgery. So, we’ll see how that goes. Hopefully, there’s nothing wrong with Worley’s elbow besides that bone spur they cleaned out, and he’ll be back in shape by the second half of next season.

By: Jim Crikket

Jim Crikket — Thu, 06 Dec 2012 22:13:53 +0000

I wonder if they’ll give Mastroianni a shot at CF and leading off. I’ve always thought Mauer was a pretty good candidate to bat #2. I’m also concerned about OF defense, in addition to the offense lost via Span and Revere. But those are problems for another day.

By: CapitalBabs

CapitalBabs — Thu, 06 Dec 2012 22:11:23 +0000

Jeff, I’m pretty sure that Mastrioanni will be right there in the mix for leadoff hitting – we’ll see how that goes but at least he did fairly well when he had a few chances in 2012.

By: Jeff

Jeff — Thu, 06 Dec 2012 22:06:30 +0000

I’m concerned about OBP at top of lineup. Now might be time to put Mauer in #2 slot. Evn if Hicks makes team, I can’t see Gardy using him in leadoff spot immediately.

By: Jim Crikket

Jim Crikket — Thu, 06 Dec 2012 20:53:49 +0000

Thrylos, I’m not even convinced adding two pitchers better than Worley will assure the Twins of competing in 2013, but I agree it at least would give them a chance. They do now have a hole in CF and at least one spot at the top of the batting order to fill somehow. Maybe Hicks will be ready, maybe someone else, maybe nobody.

But if they add a couple more legitimate MLB starting pitchers, they should at least put an interesting product on the field in 2013 and that’s really what I’m asking for. I don’t expect miracles.

By: Jim Crikket

Jim Crikket — Thu, 06 Dec 2012 20:50:02 +0000

Babs, I think the Twins REALLY wanted Meyer, but Atlanta had some guys they wanted more. When the Braves signed Upton and the Nationals made Meyer available, Ryan had the guy he wanted and acted before the Nationals had time to trade Meyer to someone else. Hindsight is 20-20 and had they known just how hot the market would be in Nashville for CFs, I suspect they would have waited a week to deal Span. I think the CF market surprised a lot of people.

By: Jim Crikket

Jim Crikket — Thu, 06 Dec 2012 20:44:52 +0000

I’ve obviously been critical of Ryan’s lack of activity, so I thought it was only appropriate to give credit where it was due on the Revere trade. This was a good trade.

If this is ALL he does in order to improve the 2013 product, then the answer is, “no… his work is not finished.” If this is it, then yeah, AW, he’s punted on 2013 and I think he’s being VERY unfair to Gardy to place his head on the chopping block if the team loses a ton of games again.

That said, this is just the end of the Winter Meetings, not the end of the offseason. This trade certainly should not close the door on the possible signing of free agent pitching. Guys like Marcum, Jackson, and McCarthy are still available. I don’t hold it against Ryan that he hasn’t signed any of that kind of pitcher yet since none of them were likely to sign until Greinke and Sanchez establish the market. Once those dominos fall, though, Ryan should kick in to gear and add 2 more SPs, at least one of which should be at that “2nd tier” level. If he signed, for example, Marcum and Brett Myers, I’d say he’s at least made a good faith effort to fix the rotation. He should, imo, do BETTER than that, but I’ve pretty much given up on Sanchez and Jackson. I’d actually consider Worley, if healthy, a better addition than Jackson.

By: Thrylos98

Thrylos98 — Thu, 06 Dec 2012 20:39:29 +0000

TR was just on MLB Network saying that the Twins and the Phillies starting talking about Revere in the GM meetings about a month ago…

This is a good move. The Twins now got one starter better than Diamond. Give them 2 starters better than Worley and they might compete in 2013…