I’m kinda confused.
I am getting the overwhelming sense that far too many so-called Twins “fans” are actually rooting against the team right now. Why? Because they’re apparently afraid that if the Twins continue to win games at their recent rate, they’ll pull themselves up out of the AL Central Division cellar and perhaps even within shouting distance of whatever sorry excuse for a Division Leader happens to be sitting atop the Division as July nears. These “fans” think that might cause General Manager Terry Ryan to exercise undue restraint when other GMs come calling to inquire about the availability of current Twins players on the trade market.
Yes, that’s right… a significant segment of the fanbase doesn’t want to see the Twins win TOO much because they think the Twins can get significantly better in 2013 or 2014 by trading veterans for prospects this summer and they don’t give a damn how bad the resulting product on the field is for the rest of 2012.
My goodness, how things have changed in Twinsville.
I could have sworn we all (both fans and Twins players, themselves) spent most of the early to middle part of the past decade complaining that the front office was always looking toward “next year” when it came to making mid-season deals. Does anyone else remember the reaction from fans and the clubhouse when Luis Castillo was dealt to the Mets in 2007 with the Twins only a handful of games out of the Division lead? The players and many fans believed Torii and Johan and the others still had another run in them, but Terry Ryan dealt the team’s leadoff hitter anyway. Many people felt Hunter and Santana eventually left via Free Agency after that season in part because they didn’t believe the Twins would ever play for “now.”
With the limited revenue that the Twins’ Metrodome lease allowed, Terry Ryan always had to have one eye on the bottom line as he crafted his roster from one season to the next, but the promise of a new ballpark and the additional revenue streams that would come with it changed that perception. Finally, the Twins would be able to afford to pay for enough talent to make a run whenever they were on the edge of contention at mid-season.
So here we are, mid-way through the third season in that new ballpark and fans want Terry Ryan to hold a fire sale?
There are two reasons for teams to trade away veteran ballplayers at midseason. One is because someone who needs instant help this year is willing to give up prospects that the selling team believes will play key roles when they’re finally able to turn things around and contend themselves. The other is to shed payroll, which is often necessary because a bad team is not generating attendance and other revenue streams as had been hoped when the roster was built in the spring.
I hope we can all agree that the latter simply is not an acceptable reason for the Twins to trade anyone. There’s no shortage of cash in the Twins checking account right now. They did their payroll slashing before the season even started and that economizing, rather than paying to bring on better starting pitching, is the main reason this team isn’t living up to hopes this season.
That leaves the only reason for “selling” being to bring in high upside prospects that can play critical roles later. But how realistic is that, really?
I’m afraid some of these people clamoring for the Twins to sell off parts are significantly overestimating what Ryan can get for those parts. Remember the return he got for what was still a very productive leadoff hitter and second baseman in 2007? Castillo was batting .304 with 9 stolen bases, 54 runs and a .356 on-base percentage when he was traded to the Mets… for Dustin Martin and Drew Butera. How do you think people are going to feel if THAT’S the kind of return the Twins get for Denard Span? I, for one, will be pissed!
The Twins’ primary need, in their efforts to rebuild a competitive team, is starting pitching. Their hitting is fine. Their defense could be better, but it’s improved over last year. Their bullpen has been surprisingly solid. They need good starting pitching.
Does anyone really believe there are contending teams out there with such a surplus of good starting pitchers that they’re going to be willing to trade one of them for a Denard Span, a Ryan Doumit, or even a Justin Morneau? I don’t believe it for a heartbeat.
I also believe people are underestimating how competitive this team could be over the next year and a half. The biggest need is for better starting pitching and, unfortunately, that’s something that’s just not easy to come by. It’s certainly unlikely to be something acquired in a mid-season trade with a team looking to improve their ability to contend this season.
That being the case, I simply do not believe that you tear down other areas of your roster when you’re unlikely to improve the area most in need of help… not when there’s no economic reason to do so.
If there’s a GM out there willing to part with a high-ceiling starting pitcher that’s likely to contribute to the Twins at the Major League level in 2013 or at least by 2014, fine… see what it takes to get that player. But I don’t think it’s likely. More likely, potential trade partners will be offering up more of the Dustin Martin/Drew Butera level of prospect or simply offering to take on contracts without giving up any kind of prospects at all.
If that’s the best Terry Ryan can do, I’d rather just keep watching the guys wearing Twins uniforms right now for the rest of the season and see what they can do if a couple of these young pitchers keep getting hitters out the way they have been lately.
I know many fans disagree. But for those who are prevailing on the Twins to trade their veterans over the coming weeks , I have just a small bit of advice. Be careful what you wish for. Based on Terry Ryan’s history, you may just get it.
– JC
On the morning of the Castillo trade, the Twins were 53-51, in 3rd place, 7 games behind the Tigers, 6.5 games behind the Indians. Luis Castillo was a good tablesetter, but on the downside of his career (31 and already suffering chronic leg problems for at least a couple years, then) and set to be a free agent after the season. In retrospect, Terry Ryan properly gauged the state of the division race (Detroit would win 88 games, but the Indians would win 96), and he correctly forecast Castillo’s future. After the Mets signed Castillo to a $25m/4-year contract in November 2007, he had a terrible 2008, just a decent 2009, and finally was released, after a poor 2010 season, with a year to go on his deal. The only thing Terry Ryan got wrong there was the return he received in his trade with the Mets. But, to be fair, Dustin Martin looked like a decent prospect at the time; he hit .288/.360/.425 at High A in 2007, and .290/.355/.447 at AA New Britain in 2008. He just stalled at AAA.
Of course there are no guarantees that the prospects Ryan could get this summer would work out any better. But, he has to consider not only the short window he has to build around this group of veterans, but also the rule changes that eliminated Type B free agents and make it harder to get compensation for Type A’s who sign elsewhere. If he wants to get some sort of prospect compensation for the (eventual) loss of some of these veterans, he may have to make trades. And, particularly if he doesn’t think he can fix the pitching rotation with $$ this winter, I think he might as well trade some veterans while they’re riding high this summer.
I’m not rooting against success in the meantime. I just don’t want to see the front office repeat last year’s miscalculation of “Oh, we’re 50-57, but the team has been looking better lately, and we’re only 6-7 games out, in this ‘winnable’ division….” Oops.
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